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Young squirrel arrived almost 6 weeks ago with nose trauma/bleeding. Was treated and improved for a few days. Since, has slowly deteriorated. Have been treating for what was showing: one broken off at gum upper incisor, one lower incisor broken in half, broken nose (excessive bleeding on arrival). Though mucus in nose and dyspnea were due to nasal infection and that it was causing a pneumonia type condition, etc.
Took him for X-ray's yesterday. They show he has a broken jaw which is the reason his lower incisors spread when opening his mouth on inspiration. They are together but spread at the ends, not at the roots so much, looking "V" shaped. (I had thought it was due to one upper and one lower incisor having been broken.)
He has a fractured septum.
He has a broken sternum. Vet said he thinks the pain from that may have caused the worst condition which is a perforated ulcer. This has caused his abdomen to bloat with gas. He said it's similar to what might be heard
called leaky gut. (I don't know anything of this type of thing so trying to repeat what he told me as best I can. I've been looking up as much as time permits. Most references I've found say bleeding in abdomen but the vet used the term "gas".)
He said there is a threat of peritonitis. That his bowels aren't moving fast enough.
He has no infections. Vet said he doesn't know why there is mucus in nose and mouth.
His lungs are clear. Heart okay.
Yesterday, July 6, after vet visit started him on Nux V 6C, giving two doses, plussed and one dose early this morning. Also gave him 1/2 drop Amoxicillin morning and night. Plus a drop, several times, of Mylicon Infant dose (Simethicone) that was suggested by vet. The changes that have occurred since Nux V, Amoxi and Mylicon over the last 24 hours are in parenthesis after the symptoms ....that I started to try to post yesterday.
Mouth opens to widest possible with each inspiration, click/cluck and air n
oise as gasps for air, closes mouth, belly "thuds", exhales, longer than inhale, with effort and wheezes exhaling. It is dreadful and has not stopped for over a month. (This has not improved)
Lower incisors fan apart at ends on each inspiration due to broken jaw (no improvement)
Abdomen very distended,vet said was gas accumulation (not improved)
Passes stool, less frequently/less volume than normal, larger in size than normal, softer than normal but normal color. (He had very loose stool once today, new. Only time he passed stool at all.)
Is urinating, less now than normal (but he is eating and drinking far less, too).
He is dehydrated, skin loose on back.
His skin color around mouth is turning dusky, lack of oxygen said vet.
When attempts to eat pureed food, first mouthful causes him hunker over and make loud noise, like air rushing out/hacking as though will vomit but doesn't. These are very bad episodes and each time I think he will not survive. He has only been fed via
syringe since arrival. (This has improved. No episodes since Nux V and Mylicon.)
Yesterday mouth full of thick, very white mucus which he was unable to expel. Use a Q-tip to try to swab out. Previously, mucus was only in the nose. (Today, July 6, there is no mucus in mouth.)
Was white mucus visible in nostrils, both sides but does not discharge nor does he seem able to sneeze it out. Made very small Q-tips to swab out his nose. It will come out that way, sticky, thick. When cleaned out with Q-tip, nostril clear behind what was removed. (today, mucus is more bland color and less volume)
Area below nostrils excoriated/corroded.
He has lost a good bit of weight. Is fragile and weak. Face, upper body and over the back are thin. (this is a bit worse today, very weak)
What makes him different from other wild squirrels: He likes to be stroked/comforted by this human. Has never made an attempt to bite or scratch to defend himself which, even if compromised/ill, is VERY
unusual in a wild squirrel.
Twice today he began to cry on exhale, looked even more weakened. Gave him Carbo V 30(dilution) which didn't relieve. Gave Carbo V 200, which seemed to a little.
He also got one dose Symph 12X, in water.
Raised Nux V to 30 in water.
This squirrel was on Sil 6X, cell salt then 30C, a while ago and I felt it aggravated him.......before I knew what was really going on with him. Sil, Kali C and Nux V were remedies that I found only using "perforated ulcer". Would anyone have suggestions for other rubrics that might be more helpful? Using "gas, abdomen", Lyc is prominent but I don't know if this is more specific to what I think of as indigestion or could be applied to perforated ulcer. Then there is Rob. Help!
Acon and Cham have helped to relieve some of his anxiety during the attacks and they both antidote Nux V. Can one go back and forth.....in other words, if Acon helps him through a bad spell (and 200 was the potency that did, not
lower) can I use that and then return to Nux V? In a situation like this, is the primary action of the remedy (which seems short lived, unfortunately, each dose) used up so that giving what might be an antidote, is less important than if working a chronic case. (I can't think very well any more, sorry. Typing this as fast as I can and not making much sense at it.)
His dyspnea(pain caused by perforated ulcer, said vet) must be relieved soon or he won't make it much longer. No remedy yet has given any improvement. How often would I repeat a plussed dose of a remedy before deciding it wasn't helping? Would lower potencies, 6 to 30 be the best choice or go to the higher immediately?
Any suggestions will be very appreciated.
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while searching for a remedy, try Hypericum tincture - for the pain.
One drop in a little water.
Stop if it gives no relief after 2nd dose.
Have a look at Arnica
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gien, thank you very much for your help. I will try hyp tincture as suggested.
He has had Arn quite a bit. Started with 200 on arrival with the bloody nose. A couple of days ago I started giving him LM1 for about 5 doses, upping along. Nothing seems to touch the dyspnea......or I haven't stayed with anything long enough. It seems such an emergency situation (for such long a time!) so have repeated doses of one remedy after another, trying to see if any response after 3-4 doses.
Thank you so much. I know it was a lot to wade through and I appreciate your taking the time to do so.
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Dear GPM,
I've given the rubrics below if they could be of any help to you. This is some mdical situation you're handling, the type I'd really enjoy working on if I was onsite!
My advise to you is forget the pathology and possible causes at this point and just tade a homeopathic look at the squirrel and see what are the homeopathic characteristics he's expressing.
The description of the breathing sounds good. BEsides that there will be concomittant expressions and modalities. IT will take a little forgetting and re-observing with fresh eyes.... not easy, I know.
But rather than wade in all the pathology, you'll have your prescription immediately with those observations. IT may be something close to Carbo Veg.
ALl the best,
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RESPIRATION; DIFFICULT; epigastrium, from oppression in (G654): ars., chin., cocc., guai., lach., laur., nat-m., phos., rhus-t., sulph.
RESPIRATION; DIFFICULT; fullness of; abdomen, with: lob.
RESPIRATION; DIFFICULT; lung; expand, cannot (K769, G655) (Deep; desire to breathe): asaf., bry., cina, croto-t., laur., prun., syph.
RESPIRATION; DIFFICULT; flatulence, from obstructed (K769, G654) (Impeded; flatulence, from): arg-n., ars., caps., Carb-v., cast., cham., chin., hep., lac-d., lyc., mez., nat-c., nat-s., Nux-v., ol-an., op., osm., phos., Puls., sang., Sulph., verat., zinc.
RESPIRATION; IMPEDED, obstructed; oppression; epigastrium, in (G657): arn., bry., calad., camph., cham., chin., cic., cocc., guai., hell., hyos., ign., mosch., nux-v., olnd., rhus-t., samb.
RESPIRATION; IMPEDED, obstructed; flatulence, from (K773, G657) (Difficult; flatulence, from obstructed): ars., caps., Carb-v., cham., chin., hep., ign., mez., nat-c., Nux-v., ol-an., Op., osm., phos., puls., Sulph., thuj., verat., zinc.
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Since the most unusual part of the case is his response to affection, I would try Puls. It also has a lot of ulcers and pain from ulcers.
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Since there wasn't enough stress here already, a thunderstorm caused a power outage and haven't been able to get back till now.
Snoopy, thanks for the info on Pitcairn. I have that taped conference and almost all he's ever made. Would love to get hold of his Advanced Course for vets but they keep a tight lid on it all. Must be a vet. Can't even subscribe to the Academy of Veterinary Homeopaths journal, if not a vet.
Dr. Leela, thank you for such helpful rubrics. I'm going to copy what you posted and go through it thoroughly. Have found Carbo V of great help to him and have given it often during his more difficult periods, of which there are far too many. Three times today, I was sure he wasn't going to come through. Started with 12, then 30 and found 200 had better results. But have only used it one dose during the worst times, thinking of it as more an emergency remedy. Have used Cham and Ant t, the same way and each one will help him through a crisis, returning to the dyspn
ea but at least without the crying or whimpering. (Cruel aren't I? Every day I decide to put him to "sleep" and don't. The vet, who indicated there was really no chance for him, watched the little guy curl up in my hand and said, "well, maybe you should keep trying.")
Dr. Leela, you're right, I get stuck in the mud once there is a "disease" named. I will check out all your information. So.... you like this kind of case? He'll be in the mail to you tomorrow!
Shirley, thank you very much for your suggestion. Puls is high in the relationship to Carbo V....! I gave him 2 doses of Puls on the 4th of July (how did all of you spend the holiday?) but in 200, plussed with no noticeable improvement. Might have been better lower? I will read Puls again, from a different angle. What I've been doing is giving a remedy a 2 to 4 times, plussing, and if nothing much results, move on to the next. I may not be giving anything enough of a chance. Just feel like there's so little time (yet
it's been going on almost 6 weeks) that I have to move on if nothing changes at all after a couple of doses. Not one thing has stopped the wide open mouthed gasping, even when he's asleep. I want that "aha" moment Barb talked about.
A while ago, he was in another episode of increased pain/anxiety (never not but sometimes worse because he will get up and gag or aggravated by being fed) and gave him a couple of drops of Ornithogalum umbellatum, diluted. That enabled him to go to sleep pretty quickly.
gein, I did try the Hyp MT, 2 doses, in water but there was no improvement.
Thank you all so much.
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If you are willing to foot the bill for X-rays, have those teeth pulled.
A good question when and if you do that: can it survive in the wild without them?
Note: WAS causing a pneumonia-like condition, so it is therefore not considered here.
Dyspnea being a likely result of a broken sternum and therefore a common symptom, it is ignored unless you spot a modality or accompanying symptom making it characteristic.
Rocky and Bullwinkle are my buddies, but I got no further than this.
I do not see any uncommon symptoms, so you might as well add dyspnea.
I would suggest that you stop throwing medicines into the creature.
Figure out one that is best and stick with it.
That is not easy to do, but you have an extremely sick organism to repair, and that all the more calls for great similarity.
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STOMACH, Ulcers (K1422): Arg-n, Ars, Calc-ar, calc, caust, Cur, HYDR, KALI-BI, Kali-c, Kreos, LYC,
Merc-c, Mez, nat-p, Nit-ac, Nux-v, PHOS, sil, sul-ac, syph, Uran
GENERALITIES, Ulcers, glands (K1410): Amb, ant-c, arn., ARS, asaf, aur, Bell, calc, Canth, carb-an, carb-v, caust, clem, coloc, Con, cupr, dulc, Hep, hyos, ign, kali-c, kali-p, kreos, Lach, lyc, merc, nit-ac, ph-ac, PHOS, Phyt, rhus-t, sars, sep., SIL, spong, squil, sul-ac, Sulph, thuj, zinc.
GENERALITIES, Wounds, Constitutional effects of (K1422): arn, carb-v, con, hep, Iod, Lach, LED, nat-m., Nit-ac, Phos, puls, rhus-t, Staph, Sul-ac, zinc
GENERALITIES, Wounds, crushed and lacerated finger ends (K1422): HYPER, Led
GENERALITIES, Wounds slow to heal (K1422): alum., am-c., Bar-c, Bor, Calc, Carb-v, caust., Cham, chel., con., crot-h., Graph, HEP, kali-c, LACH, lyc, mag-c, mang, Merc-c, Merc, mur-ac, NIT-AC, PETR, ph-ac, phos, plb, puls, Rhus-t, sep, SIL, Staph, SULPH
GENERALITIES, Wounds (K1422): Apis, Arn, bor, carb-v, cic, con, croc, hep, iod, kreos, Lach, LED, merc, m
ez, nat-c, nat-m, nit-ac, ph-ac, Phos, plb, Puls, rhus-t, ruta, seneg, sil, Staph, Sul-ac, sulph, zinc
GENERALITIES, Slow repair of broken bones (K1402): asaf, CALC-P, CALC, ferr, lyc, merc, mez, nit-ac, Ph-ac, phos, puls, ruta, sep, Sil, staph, sulph, Symph
CHEST, Ulcer over Sternum and Clavicle (K882): Calc-p
CHEST Pain, Sternum (K848): agar, apis, asaf, Bell, bor, Bry, calc-p, calc-s, caps, carb-an, cocc, con, dulc, Ferr-ar, fl-ac, fl-ac, hura, Jug-c, kali-I, kalm, Kreos, lach, led, Manc, morph, mur-ac, nit-ac, ox-ac, Puls, rhus-t, Sulph, tarax, Ter, zing
GENERALITIES, Pain, Sternum, Cartilages (K1385): ARG-M, Rhod, Rhus-t
CHEST, Pain when swallowing (K849): all-c, phos
CHEST, Pain, Heart, breathing almost impossible (K849): arg-n
GENERALITIES, Shocks from injury (K1399): ACON, Am-c, ARN, bell, CAMPH, Caps, Carb-v, Cham, Cic, cocc, Coff, Cupr, Gels, HYPER, Ip, LACH, merc, OP, psor, Ran-b, sec, Staph, stro
nt, sulph, VERAT
Peritonitis
ABDOMEN, Distension (K544): Abrot., acet-ac., acon-c., Acon., aesc., aeth., Agar., all-c., Aloe., alum., alumn., am-c., am-m., ambr., anac., anan., ant-c., ant-t., apis., apoc., arg-m., Arg-n., arn., ars-i., Ars., asaf., asar., aur-m., aur., bapt., bar-c., bar-i., bar-m., bell., berb., bism., bor., bov., brom., bry., bufo., cact., cahin., calad., calc-p., calc-s., Calc., canth., caps., carb-ac., carb-an., Carb-s., Carb-v., card-m., carl., cast., caust., cedr., cham., chel., chin-a., chin-s., Chin., Cic., cimic., cina., cinnb., cist., clem., coc-c., Cocc., coff., Colch., coll., Coloc., con., cop., corn., croc., crot-h., crot-t., cupr., cycl., dig., dulc., eup-per., fago., ferr-ar., ferr-i., ferr-p., ferr., gamb., gins., gran., Graph., grat., hell., Hep., hyos., hyper., ign., iod., ip., jatr., jug-r., kali-ar., kali-bi., Kali-c., kali-chl., kali-i., kali-n., kali-p., kali-s., kreos., lac-c., Lach., lact., laur., led., lil-t., lob., Lyc., Mag-c., mag-m., mag-s
., manc., mang., meny., merc-c., merc-d., Merc., mez., mosch., mur-ac., murx., nat-a., Nat-c., Nat-m., Nat-p., nat-s., nicc., nit-ac., nux-m., nux-v., ol-an., op., ox-ac., pall., petr., Ph-ac., Phos., plat., plb., podo., poth., prun-s., psor., ptel., puls., pyrog., Raph., rheum., rhod., rhus-t., rhus-v., rob., sabin., samb., sang., sars., sec., sep., sil., spig., spong., squil., stann., staph., stram., stront., sul-ac., Sulph., sumb., tab., tarent., Ter., thuj., til., uran., valer., verat., verb., vip., zinc., zing.
ABDOMEN, Dropsy ascites (K546): acet-ac, acon, Agn, APIS, APOC, Arg-n, ARS, asaf, aur-m-n, Aur-m, Aur, Bry, Calc, cann-s, Canth, carb-s, Card-m, caust, Chel, Chim, Chin-a, Chin, Colch, coloc, crot-h, cur, Dig, Dulc, ferr-ar, Fl-ac, Graph, Hell, helon, hep, iris, kali-ar, kali-br, Kali-c, Kali-chl, kali-p, kali-s, kalm, lact, Led, LYC, mag-m, med, Merc, mill, nux-v, Phos, Prun-s, puls, sabin, senec, sep, sil, spong, squil, Sulph, TER
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I do not know why Calc-ph. is
listed alone in ulcers over sternum and clavicle, but I would advise it read in Hering anyway; for it comes up in problems with bones and connective tissues and is famous for them.
It might be that you have matches with the other symptoms too.
As equally famous is Symphytum.
Also Sul-ac in smashed bones.
Read that section of my analysis of the cat’s case near the end for those references.
The only reliable symptoms you seem to have that I discerned are the gastric ulcer and smashed up bones.
As far as I know, Symph. and Sul-ac. are the only two really famous drugs listed in stomach ulcers also known for bone problems, but read them all if you do not feel satisfied with either of them.
Have you read Hahnemann on veterinary homeopathy?
Good luck!
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Hi GPM,
Saw this post on lyghtforce and minutus...did you see the reposting of Joy Lucas' Symphytum case?
If you get a chance, read that reposting over. Symphytum sounds like an excellent remedy for this poor squirrel. Do you know the cause of his/her injuries?
Good luck with this creature...try to remember that even though you feel pressured to cure miraculously, the squirrel is still "hanging in there" 6 weeks after the fact...so resist the urge to just keep trying remedies until you find the "aha" result. Sometimes the nurturing and support that come with treatment are the best medicine going! Do consider the symphytum if its not yet been given.
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Thank you, Albert, for your concern and assistance. You are right about throwing too many remedies into him. This has been going on for 6 weeks.
His teeth were trimmed while at the vet's. Those front teeth are what their little lives revolve around and would make every attempt to save them. He would not be releasable without front teeth. Their front teeth, like other rodents, are maintained a certain length by daily gnawing, which he hasn't been able to do. If the lower incisors grow too long, it can cause a nasal abscess and prevent eating.
The reason I was thinking pneumonia is it is very common with injured squirrels. His type of respiration/dyspnea is how it manifests. Mostly, I think, it is a result of aspiration. Or having been left to the elements too long before rescue. With his nose injury, the discharge not expelling, I thought it may have been filling his lungs. He did not have dyspnea when he first came, so my thought was he had developed an infection from the br
oken/damaged teeth that was draining to his lungs. Ant T helped some.
He was found on the side of the road. Imagine his impact was with a car wheel.
Yes, x-rays for a squirrel. It gets tough. It's the reason, not an excuse, for holding off as long as possible before going that route. There are close to 200 squirrels coming in some years and costs (even without vet bills) are pretty substantial. The vets give no sway on their fees......just lucky to find one who will even look at one. Rehabbers are volunteers, meaning the state wildlife division gives no financial support......at all. Smart rehabbers develop non profit organizations, which can then take donations. That takes time to file for legally and time to cater to the public.
Will certainly read over all the information in your rubrics.
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Hang in there GPM! My thought was Puls as well but it didn't seem to helpful! I put to sleep a little hairless rat last week, I kept thinking its too bad she didn't have you to look after her, she might have made it!
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Hi ChaCha,
We were posting at the same time and I didn't see your message until now. Thank you, nice lady.
I looked at Joy's case last night in the achieves. I did give him Symph yesterday (before panic posting all over the place) but only in 12X. There were no results but it could have been too low.
The kid is still hanging in there. He's going to make it in spite of me.
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This is not a one-dose case.
You have to give continuous doses until there is an effect, either vigorously stirring or succussing it.
And I did not suggest a particular medicine.
You have to read the materia medica to find the match with symptoms.
Hahnemann's two MM and Hering's GUIDING SYMPTOMS would be the two best by far; Kent only misleads.
Find the medicine needed and stick with it.
Finally, I'm glad there are people like you who do such things, for there are many noble-like creatures like raptors and primates that readily get financial support for such help while helping the things they eat are laughed at by many. But it shows good guardianship and husbandry to show empathy with and love for all life.
Good Luck!
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Hello all you good people. Want to let you know that Broken Nose is still with us. He is very appreciative of all of you....says you're a great bunch, even if you don't have fluffy tails.
I tried Puls (again, had a while ago) with no good response. Tried Symp very low as was suggested on Minitus, with very bad reaction. Settled down to Carbo V 30, in dilution, a few doses succussed. Each dose helped somewhat for a while but didn't hold and certainly never touched the dyspnea. What it did was let him rest better, without the frenzy to breathe.
Very bad last night. For several hours, crying and anxious. Then quiet. Could feel his heart beat but no signs of breathing. Thought it was over. I have the injectable to put him to sleep but since he was so peaceful I let it go. Late, gave one dose Kali C 30, just dribbled into the side of his mouth. Another dose early this morning. He didn't rouse till noon today. (However, he did get up in the night, evidence of his dragging his b
ottom on the paper leaving mucus like diarrhea. As sick as the kid is, he still wants his living quarters unfouled and uses his "potty paper". Amazing.)
Finally, in desperation since he hadn't eaten anything since yesterday, I kind of forced the Nutri Cal gel into him. After a while he ate it without forcing. THEN.....he bit my finger! What joy! (It was more a clamping of his very blunt teeth than an attempt to actually bite. Friendly squirrels chew on their human's fingers, not intending any harm.) So I stuck a shelled walnut in front of him and the pathetically skinny, fat bellied boy, sat up (with a little help from a friend) and ATE the nut. No wincing about using his jaw/lower teeth....ate the whole thing. Had a huge burp bringing thick white mucus into his mouth. Went back to sleep. Still opens mouth on inspiration but with out the gasping. Still very distended abdomen. But eating that nut was a big deal.
He began to whimper again later today with another feeding.
Gave another 1cc dose Kali C and he's sleeping without gasping.
Very low potencies seemed to aggravate him badly. Maybe if I held out, it would have settled but the aggs seemed so hard on him. Weeks ago, when I thought his dyspnea was fluid in lungs, Ant T 12 (which works well with infant squirrels) nor LM had any results but 30 did almost immediately.
Milk white mucus hawked into mouth and filling nose are not new symptoms but am researching them, along with the mucus diarrhea just to see if there is a closer remedy than Kali C.
Since there has been some improvement, how long and how often can I safely give 30C, succussed? If he stays on Kali C, would it be advisable to go up in potency or continue with the succussed 30?
I want to take this opportunity to tell you all how much it meant to me to have so many kind responses. I'm proud to know you.
Albert, special thanks for the nice words. It is very true. Find an injured hawk and the rehabbers w
ill take them in a minute. I have no idea why anyone would look into the face of a hawk and then into the face of a squirrel and decide the hawk worth the effort and the squirrel not. I want no living being to suffer but squirrels are pure love and joy......hawks just aren't. I guess the human world loves the predator.
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Art. 247: you always modify the potency.
If you think Kali-c. is benefiting, crush some between a couple of spoons and dissolve it in alcohol or pure water, or both, within a sterile glass bottle or jar and shake it up a uniform number of times between doses.
Ten, 20, 100 succussions, take your pick but try to stick with it.
Is there any materia-medica justification for choosing Kali-c?
And if the respiratory issue is the central problem, stick with those rubrics as the chief complaint if there are any details that individualize the disease picture.
Charming heart there, sweetie.
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My apologies. Was giving Carbo V LM1, not 30C, so I could dose more often with the same dosage cup, stirred, during the day. Had been relieved with 30 before but didn't want to give too many doses in 30.
MM for Kali C exists but probably not as well as another remedy. Since Carbo V offered some benefit but didn't "cure", Kali C is supposedly, according to some cases I read, a complimentary. It also has crying in pain.
Albert, I have been using remedies in dilution and succussing/stirring between doses. You are probably quite right that Kali C is probably only close and not correct. Have been searching.....have a long list of remedies to read. Trying to stick to Allen, Hering, Boenninghausen and Hahnemann. Truthfully, the more I read the "confusider" I get. Who would think Con (for instance) would have so many similar symptoms?
Thank you.
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Nice Work!!
Long list of remedies, I know what you mean.
Remember to look closely at those with
"crying in pain" "Shrieking with the pain"
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Don't read them all, just these: STOMACH, Ulcers (K1422): Arg-n, Ars, Calc-ar, calc, caust, Cur, HYDR, KALI-BI, Kali-c, Kreos, LYC, Merc-c, Mez, nat-p, Nit-ac, Nux-v, PHOS, sil, sul-ac, syph, Uran.
And just those sections of relevance.
Ignore Allen. He was an LPH who did not allow symptoms in from provings above 12c and frequently changed the symptoms.
Hering and Hahnemann should suffice.
I see squirrels daily at a university I have been frequenting for the last month, and I've thus thought of your efforts.
The damages you named say that this is a seriously injured squirrel.
Which reminds me: GENERALITIES, Injuries (including blows, falls and bruises) (K1368): Arn., bad., bell-p., bry., calc., canth., carb-v., cham., chin., cic., Con., croc., dulc., euphr., Hep., hyos., Hyper., iod., kali-c., kreos., lach., laur., led., lyc., merc., mez., nat-c., nat-m., nat-s., nit-ac., nux-v., par., ph-ac., phos., plat., plb., Puls., Rhus-t., ruta., samb.
, sec., seneg., sil., staph., Sul-ac., sulph., symph., verat., zinc.
Cross those two.
I've forgotten the details of the case, but try crossing some central symptoms.
Was today reading E.J. Lee on "Characteristics as Taught by Hahnemann."
Do you find anything peculiar or a modality that qualifies a common symptom?
We need a rubric for smashed-up squirrel, perhaps.
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Well, isn't this turning out to be one fine day! Krista's kitty is better, my cancer tumor kitty isn't bleeding...the other went potty very nicely.......and........want to let Broken Nose's excellent human advisors know that he looks like he may be coming around!
I just couldn't come up with a remedy that I thought more appropriate than Carbo V. Not that there wasn't one, I just couldn't decide on one. It seemed to help a little each dose but he was still gravely ill. So, last night I gave him a dose of Sulph 30C in dilution. No particular response but about an hour later he passed a good sized glob of thick, black stool that stuck to him. All he has been passing, which was minimal, was light brown mucus that he left by scooting on the paper.
This morning, ate just a little less reluctantly from the syringes. ( Had stopped the antibiotics almost immediately after starting. Had been giving acidophilus and vitamins.) Gave a dose of Carbo V LM1....fresh dosage cup each day from
storage bottle that has been succussed each day. Still hawking gas, belly still terribly distended, very weak, extremely dehydrated and thin. Second feeding, he pushed the syring away, jumped out to his potty paper and plopped down a huge, in size and amount, nicely formed stool. Then he climbed to his second story, looking all over for food! Full of energy and hungry. Without seeming to know it was happening, he passed quite a lot of very watery brown diarrhea.....just dripped out of him.
He quickly turned into a normal rescued wild squirrel......wanted out of that cage. Biting at the wires to get free. No more did he need or want my comforting! Jumped into his sleeping nest, pulled the covers up tight and went to sleep. His breathing seems much improved in just that short time. Curled up relaxed. Is still opening his mouth on inspiration but barely perceptible. Isn't life wonderful!?
Now, if this is really a good turn and not a last hurrah, I think I have to re-evaluate a
nd give a remedy for fear/panic/capture. I feel now that the pain of the fractures of his nose, sternum and jaw were not the sole reason(s) he developed the ulcer. I think I missed how frightened he was, concentrating on how sick/damaged he seemed. Even though Broken Nose seemed to enjoy touch, it wasn't enough to eliminate his natural fear, no matter how stoic he may have tried to appear. Any adult squirrel, even one hand-raised, panics at having their surroundings altered. I learned a good lesson. We lose so many injured adult squirrels and it just may be due more to them being "captives" than to the injuries alone. If one of the squirrels who lives here shows up injured, I generally won't bring them into the house but treat them where they are accustomed to being if at all possible. Their survival rate is higher than those brought into strange surroundings.
Thank you all very much. It made a big difference for me, having your help.
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Ah - GPM - SO wonderful to hear about our little guy. I am hoping that his progress continues. Keep us posted.
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Hey gpm - so whatever happened to this little feller?
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Hi Barb,
Managed to put the poor soul through 7 weeks of hell. The little braveheart died a few days ago. Doing penance.
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Oh GPM ![[Frown]](frown.gif) I'm sorry. I had thought of him the other day and figured since this post had been inactive he was doing well. WHat a shame. AS always - you did your best and that is all we can do. Please don't be hard on yourself.
Give my love to Seabert.
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I'm very sorry to hear that. Our Siamese rescue group has a term we use when a fur baby dies. We sing them to the rainbow bridge. Singing, for the soulful sounds that the Meezers make, and the rainbow bridge is where they wait until their human can join them to go on to heaven together. So I'm singing your squirrel to the rainbow bridge.
The rainbow bridge is also where all the abused and unoved fur kids wait to meet up with humans who have been down trodden and unloved in this life, so they can learn to love each other.
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gpm, I hear ya! Its one thing to tolerate the suffering and then they are fixed and its all a bad memory, but so much harder to swallow when all treatment is in vain. When this happens, I try to reflect on the cases that were "no-win" and you won anyways. No one can look into the future, if we knew the outcome our decisions would be much easier to make.
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